Skip to main content

dc - Where is Starling City located?


From the fact that the Lian Yu is somewhere in the Pacific, we can assume that the Queen's Gambit left from the west coast of the United States.


While it is never specified, it is heavily implied that the port the Gambit left was in or very near Starling City, as Sara was shown to have been visiting home the night before the trip, and went on the trip in secret.


In City of Blood (S02E21), Felicity mentions that she moved 1000 miles from Las Vegas, presumably to go to school in Starling City.


Where is the fictional Starling City located?



Answer



tl;dr: We don't know where it's located, and apparently, neither do the writers. We have gotten a ton of contradictory information, but based on the information we've seen and heard on screen, it's either near Chicago; or else, its near Seattle, or near San Francisco, or somewhere halfway between the two.





Unfortunately, there has never been a definitive location for Starling City, either in the Arrow TV Show, nor in the source material. Like the other DC cities, it's location has remained vague, and varied as the story demanded it.


Star City


In The Green Arrow and related comics, Star City has been explained in various places over the years. Early on, it was alternately depicted as being on the East Coast (on Massachusetts Bay) or the Great Lakes (Lake Michigan). In the past few decades, it has remained largely confined to the West Coast, where it has been seen as a substitute to both Seattle and San Francisco.


In the current DC timeline, I believe Star City is located "somewhere" on the coast of Northern California, a bit north of San Francisco itself.


The Starling City of Arrow was never depicted on the Easy Cost, but otherwise, it moves around almost as much as it's comics counterpart. In particular, there appear to be at least three conflicting locations given, based on both dialogue and explicit maps of the US shown on-screen.


Star[ling] City In The Midwest


So far, we have seen two large-scale maps of the United States with Star[ling] City's location on it. In "The Climb" (Season 3), we see a map of the United States with Starling City labelled on it, and it's clearly in the upper mid-west, somewhere in the Great Lakes Area (right around Chicago)


Starling City on a Map


In "Schism" (Season 4), we get a clearer map, showing the incoming nuclear missile. The missile was launched from Colorado, and is heading almost due east towards Star City, which is quite clearly located exactly where real-world Chicago is.



Star City on a Map


In addition, we know that Star City is roughly 600 miles from Central City, based on a number of comments about Barry running back and forth. In the comics, Central City is typically placed somewhere in the Midwestern United States, most often in Kansas City's real-world location. If we look at all the places that are roughly 600 miles from Missouri:


600 miles from Missouri


We can see that Chicago does qualify.


Star[ling] City On The West Coast


On the other hand, we have also seen a map that appears to put Star City on the West Coast:


Map of Star City in Northern California


This would make a lot of sense, since we know that Star City has a marina with access to the Pacific (The Queen's Gambit left the marina and sailed to Lian Yu, an island in the Pacific). In addition, one of the things we know about Central City in the Arrowverse is that it's on the coast of some very large body of water. We have seen multiple cases of things happening on the shore of a large bay, for example, when Barry is running Plasqitue's body out to sea before it explodes:


Barry running out to sea


That means that Central City can't be in the mid-west, and is most likely on the Pacific Coast (based on Barry's direction of travel). It's possible that it's situated on a really big river, but the overhead shots definitely look like a coastal city with barrier islands and no land on the other side of the water. If we place both cities on the Pacific Coast -- and ignore the explicit maps to the contrary -- all the pieces fall into place.



Where, exactly, on the coast the city should be is trickier. Based on that map, it looks like Star City would be somewhere on the northern coast of California. Since it's due west of a city in Utah, it could be anwhere north of San Francisco. Again, these maps are (intentionally, I suspect) hard to read, but it looks like the northern end of the mountain ranges in Utah and California, which puts Star City vaguely in the area of real-life Eureka or Crescent City.


Unfortunately, there are a number of other tidbits of evidence that put Starling City much further north, in northern Washington State:



  • In Season 1, Felicity gives Oliver coordinates to a building in the Glades (47.6097°N, 122.3331°W), which are in Seattle.

  • In Season 2, we also get one of the zip codes for Starling City, 98114, which is also within the zip code range for Seattle.

  • Felicity claims she moved "1000 miles away" to work at Queen Consolidated. Las Vegas is just about 900-ish miles from Seattle.


It's Nowhere


At this point, with the city having been conclusively placed in three totally distinct places over 5 seasons, it seems obvious that the writers are purposefully making the city's location vague. Again, this is exactly what happens to the city in the source material -- it moves wherever the plot needs it to be. This is probably the best we're going to get from the TV shows as well.


Comments

Popular posts from this blog

harry potter - Did Dolores Umbridge Have Any Association with Voldemort (or Death Eaters) before His Return?

I noticed that Dolores Umbridge was born during the first Wizarding War, so it's very likely she wasn't a Death Eater then (but she is pretty evil -- who knows?). After that Voldemort was not around in a way that could affect many people, and most wouldn't know he was planning to rise again. During that time, and up through Voldemort's return (in Goblet of Fire ), did Umbridge have any connection with the Death Eaters or with Voldemort? Was she doing what she did on her own, or was it because of an association with Voldemort or his allies? Answer Dolores Umbridge was definitely not a good person. However, as Sirius points out, "the world isn't split into good people and Death Eaters". Remember that he also says that he doesn't believe Umbridge to be a Death Eater, but that she's evil enough (or something like that). I think there are two strong reasons to believe that: Umbridge was proud to do everything according to the law, except when she trie...

What is the etymology of Doctor Who?

I recently decided to watch Doctor Who, and started viewing the 2005 version. I have the first two episodes from the first season, and I can't help but wonder what is the etymology of the name "Doctor Who"? And why does the protagonist call himself "the Doctor" (or is it "the doctor")? Answer In the very first episode of Doctor Who (way back in 1963), the Doctor has a granddaughter going by the name "Susan Foreman", and the junkyard where the TARDIS is has the sign "I.M. Foreman". Barbara, who becomes one of the Doctor's companions, calls him "Doctor Foreman" (probably assuming that is his name given his relationship to Susan), and Ian (another early companion) does the same in the second episode, to which the Doctor says: Eh? Doctor who? What's he talking about? "Foreman" is most likely selected as a convenient surname for Susan to use because it happened to be on display near where the TARDIS landed....

story identification - Animation: floating island, flying pests

At least 20 years ago I watched a short animated film which stuck in my mind. The whole thing was wordless, possibly European, and I'm pretty sure I didn't imagine it... It featured a flying island which was inhabited by some creatures who (in my memory) reminded me of the Moomins. The island was frequently bothered by large winged animals who swooped around, although I don't think they did any actual damage. At the end one of the moomin creatures suddenly gets a weird feeling, feels forced to climb to the top of the island and then plunges down a shaft right through the centre - only to emerge at the bottom as one of the flyers. Answer Skywhales from 1983. The story begins with a man warning the tribe of approaching skywhales. The drummers then warn everybody of the hunt as everyone get prepared to set "sail". Except one man is found in his home sleeping as the noise wake him up. He then gets ready and is about to take his weapon as he hesitates then decides ...