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star wars - What Legends material did The Force Awakens explicitly contradict?


Star Wars Legends (formally the Star Wars Expanded Universe) already had lots of events set after Star Wars VI: Return of the Jedi.


Did Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens explicitly contradict any of those events? If yes (most likely), what are they?




NOTE: some of the suggested events were NOT explicitly contradicted by canon.



  • Imperial Remnant could still have happened.

  • Mara Jade could still have happened (that might change by Episode VIII of course).

  • Even Han and Leia having twins is NOT directly contradicted by new canon — nowhere does it say Ben didn't have a twin (we know Rey isn't that twin as she is 10 years younger)




Answer



Some things that are 100% contradicted:




  • The capital of the New Republic is NOT on Coruscant as it is in EU.



    • This challenges any events related to Coruscant, such as Thrawn's offensive on it - but quite possibly, simply moves them to a new capital.





  • Based on the way Snoke and Ren talk about him, the Emperor Palpatine never got himself resurrected into a clone




  • Any adventures that Han and Leia had together as a couple (which doesn't invalidate larger historical events around those adventures)




  • Any NJO adventures between when Ben turned (no exact info but presumably at 15) till 30+ ABY, given that Luke's NJO was Kylorenned out.




  • Chewie did not die in Yuuzhan Vong invasion as he did in Vector Prime, since that book happened in 25ABY, definitely before TFA (which is 30+ years after Endor). That death could have happened AFTER TFA however, if they move YV up the timeline.







Things that are NOT explicitly contradicted (though implicitly clearly are unlikely to have happened, at least in un-modified form or on precise EU schedule):




  • Thrawn invasion. We don't have any direct proof it never happened.



    • Amazingly, even the specific subplot of Luke fighting his own clone armed with Bespin lightsaber isn't contradicted - that may very well have been how the LS was retrieved to end up with Maz Kanata.





  • Some of earlier New Jedi Order events (they could have happened before Kylo Ren destroyed Luke's academy)




  • For that matter, Yoozhan Vong invasion, is not directly contradicted either as a past event (it doesn't get mentioned, granted, and likely would have been), or as a future event.




  • Pretty much all of Old Republic and before material.





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