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the witcher - Was Renfri really cursed or not?


In the short story "The Lesser Evil" (the third story in the collection The Last Wish by Andrzej Sapkowski), Geralt becomes involved in a feud between the wizard Stregobor and the princess Renfri. Each of them asks the witcher to help them kill the other, saying it would be 'the lesser evil'. Geralt



refuses to involve himself either way, until towards the end when he realises Renfri and her companions plan to murder innocent townsfolk at the market, and kills them all to stop this.



Towards the beginning of the story, Geralt and Stregobor argue over whether Eltibald's theory of cursed women was true or whether the women such as Renfri were only victimised or righteously vengeful. Stregobor held that they were all monsters with an insatiable urge to kill, but Geralt said this was nonsense. In Renfri's case at least, she had good reason to hate Stregobor, so her desire to kill him doesn't prove that she was indeed a cursed monster. But in the end, who was right in the debate?


Was Renfri, and the others like her, a cursed monster or not?



Geralt's decision to kill her doesn't prove that she was, because the way I read it, the 'greater evil' he was trying to avoid was the murder of the townsfolk, not her existence.




There's also this exchange which I didn't understand:



Geralt retreated and raised his hand, arranging his fingers in the Sign.


Renfri laughed hoarsely. "It doesn't affect me. Only the sword will."


"Renfri," he repeated. "Go. If we cross blades, I- I won't be able-"


"I know," she said, "But I, I can't do anything else. I just can't. We are what we are, you and I."



That might throw some light on my question, if it can be understood and interpreted properly.


Apologies if this is answered in a later story. I've only got into the Witcher series recently, after answering a couple of questions about it on this site.




Answer



It's unknown


During the conversation with Stregobor, Geralt argues that the fact that someone is willing to be evil shouldn't be explained by magic or mutation - he gives the example of some old king that "can't fall asleep without the sound of someone being tortured to death".


The theme of this story (and a few others if I remember right) is Nature vs Nurture with Geralt (and Sapkowski) leaning strongly towards the latter: Humans, dwarves, mutants, elves are made evil, not born. Yes, Renfri is evil and killing her is lesser evil than letting her murder the villagers, but she has chosen that path rather than having been forced to by some sort of curse: she has been exiled from her palace, raped, forced to live the live of an outcast with seven gnomes, and now she has a chance to finally pay back one responsible for completely f***ing her life!


In the end we don't know whether she was a mutant or not, because Geralt forbids Stregobor to make the autopsy, but once again in the light of the story it's supposed to mean that it doesn't matter what she was, but what she became.



“People," Geralt turned his head, "like to invent monsters and monstrosities. Then they seem less monstrous themselves. When they get blind-drunk, cheat, steal, beat their wives, starve an old woman, when they kill a trapped fox with an axe or riddle the last existing unicorn with arrows, they like to think that the Bane entering cottages at daybreak is more monstrous than they are. They feel better then. They find it easier to live.”



The fact that the sign doesn't work for her might suggest that there is something inhuman in her, but on the other hand we know from Stregobor that after him imprisoning her in crystal she developed some sort of magic resistance (so once again there is a question of whether it was an inborn ability of a "monster" or one gained by a regular human).


In the first "Witcher" game (in a standalone short adventure), we meet another girl with story similar to Renfri - she also has been born during the Black Sun and has been treated as cursed and exiled, returning now for revenge. If you'd try to stop her, she would say that "she is unable to forgive" and you are forced to kill her, but if you'd help her, the after credits information says that she became a wise queen and her country flourished under her rule.



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