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game of thrones - Since Joffrey was a minor, why the urgency?


In the first book/season of ASoIaF/GoT, Robert wanted to say in his will that Ned would rule temporarily until Joffrey comes of age. I haven't read the books so I'm going to assume it's not so different, but:


Why, upon Robert's death, did Ned Stark/Littlefinger/Renly/Varys try to immediately challenge the legitimacy of Joffrey's claim to the throne while Joffrey is still a minor ?



I remember Ned talking to Renly and Littlefinger as if there's so much urgency to replace Joffrey. Why didn't they just pretend to be loyal to Joffrey but secretly undermine him while being small council members and then eventually replace him with Renly/Stannis/Daenerys



Jon Stark Targaryen



Or someone who's not Joffrey, Tommen or Myrcella?



I think:


Ned: felt urgency because he already confronted Cersei before Robert was injured/finding out Robert was injured. What if he didn't yet confront Cersei? Any other reasons for urgency?


Littlefinger: Secret undermining was kind of what Littlefinger wanted to do, but I recall he was going to be loyal to Joffrey conditional on not having problems and didn't suggest anything like 'Let's not do anything drastic. Let's be smart about this: inform certain people to gain their cooperation, pander to Cersei et al for now, then strike' or anything that suggested he would never accept Joffrey as king.


Anyway, I guess he was mainly following Ned wanting to arrest Cersei and Joffrey, but I don't see why Littlefinger would see that there is urgency for such unless Ned told Littlefinger about having confronted Cersei?



Renly: Not quite sure. I am fairly certain he did not even know about Joffrey's being illegitimate in the first book/season and that in the second book he did not even believe it. I guess he was distrustful of Cersei (ie in recognising Ned as Regent) who was distrustful of him?


Is that right for Ned and Littlefinger? What of Renly?




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