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frank herbert - Dune: Appendix III Who/What controlled the higher dimensional plan?


Appendix III: Report on the Bene Gesserit Motives and Purposes
On the surface it would seem that the Golden Path of Leto II was that plan and he was in charge, but he was not alive during the Arrakis Affair. Also one might think that it's Paul himself but Mr Herbert seems to indicate that it started before even Paul's birth.



The Lady Jessica was ordered to produce an Atreides daughter. The plan was to inbreed this daughter with Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen, a nephew of the Baron Vladimir, with the high probability of a Kwisatz Haderach from that union. Instead, for reasons she confesses have never been completely clear to her, the concubine Lady Jessica defied her orders and bore a son.


This alone should have alerted the Bene Gesserit to the possibility that a wild variable had entered their scheme. But there were other far more important indications that they virtually ignored:



The Report is a scathing criticism of the Gesserit multi-generational plan and ends the book with the hair raising:




In the face of these facts, one is led to the inescapable conclusion that the inefficient Bene Gesserit behavior in this affair was a product of an even higher plan of which they were completely unaware!



In many years of (re)reading the original books I don't see an answer, did I miss it, or is there an answer in the subsequent works not written by Mr Frank Herbert?



Answer



If you look at the entirety of the Dune books from not just Frank Herbert, but also his son, one character in particular has an expansive capability in the higher order dimensions that surpasses Leto II's: Norma Cenva.


She has existed in the expanded Dune timeline from the beginnings of the Bulterian Jihad against Omnius (born 218 B.G), all through the Arrakis Affair (culminating 10,193 A.G.), and up until the final (2nd) battle against Omnius at the Kralizec (eliminated Omnius 15,263 A.G.). A total of 15,000 years.


After transforming in 174 B.G. then becoming the first Navigator in 88 B.G., she evolves and grows in powers far beyond a normal Navigator during her 15,000 years of existence. She is eventually revealed to be the Oracle of Time in "Hunters of Dune" that has been planning and guiding humanity until the final battle at the Kralizec. According to published canon, Norma is that higher level planner/power that Frank Herbert alluded to in his original novels.


"Hunters of Dune" and "Sandworms of Dune" were written by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson based upon Frank Herbert's own 1,000 pages of notes and a 3 page outline (note the accepted answer says a 30 page outline but I listened to the interview, and Kevin states "a three page or maybe a two-and-one-half page outline"). There is considerable fan debate about how many of the plot details in those two books were originally from Frank's own ideas. It is not publicly known in those 1,000 pages of Frank's notes if Frank defined the Oracle of Time character or if Frank specified that Norma Cenva would fill that role.


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